Here is another excerpt from my interview with Claudio Garibaldi (the previous excerpt appeared February 8).
Claudio: You don’t talk about
the wings in your work. Why?
Mario: This, too, is an issue of pragmatism. I believe that it is helpful to
look at how all of the strategies manifest in our lives, to understand how each
one may cause us to think or act maladaptively, to become more effective at
using strategies that we under-use to our detriment. So, I am not opposed to
exploring our wings (how the types or strategies on either side of us shape our
personality type), but I find that it can cause confusion and, for my audience
at least, the confusion outweighed the value.
When I first started teaching the Enneagram to clients, they would spend
a lot of time worrying about what their wing was and what the wings of their
coworkers are. It seemed to produce debate rather than understanding and
clarity. Applying the Pareto Principle, that 80 % of one’s received benefit
tends to come from 20% of one’s investments and that the other 80% of the
investments provide a relatively low benefit, I simply felt that it was more
valuable to focus on other issues rather than the wings.
I also think that the wings are not as fixed as many people believe. In
my experience, many people demonstrate flexibility and use both wings or have
no discernible wing. In addition, the variation within type is much better
explained by subtype, or which instinct is dominant in a person. As I’m sure
you’ll recall, one of the things that initially drew us into conversation a
couple of years ago was our independent conclusions that there is a correlation
between subtype and wing identification. We independently discovered that there
were patterns that could be tracked, and thus a redundancy of sorts with wing
and subtype. For all of these reasons I simply find it easier to disregard the
wings and focus on more beneficial elements of the model.
Claudio: Tell us about how
you view the inner lines of the Enneagram.
Mario: I think there is great value and significance to the inner lines of the
Enneagram, but my emphasis is a little different and I use different labels for
the dynamics of the connecting points. First, I believe that we access both
connecting points in adaptive and maladaptive ways. Other authors say the same
things, but the connecting points are typically referred to as “directions of
integration and disintegration” or “stress” and “security” points, which gives
the impression of one direction being “good” and one being “bad.”
When I first learned the Enneagram, the implication was it was
maladaptive if I as an Eight demonstrated behaviors commonly associated with
Type Five. Being somewhat of an introvert by nature who was interested in
philosophy, art, literature, etc., this simply was not my experience of myself.
I placed value on my ability to step back and be objective and thoughtful
rather than seeing it as a sign of dysfunction. Likewise, I also noticed that I
could demonstrate some maladaptive traits associated with Type Two, which
really wasn’t accounted for in the literature at the time (though Sandra Maitri
went on to describe this dynamic well in her first book). I could be jealous
and needy and emotional in ways that Eights weren’t supposed to be. The common
wisdom of the time, that one direction represented positive growth and the
other represented dysfunction, simply didn’t ring true for me.
As far as one’s growth and development are concerned, I think there is
value in looking at the connecting points. Again, using the Pareto Principal,
there is a hierarchy of dynamics to pay attention to with the Enneagram, a
pattern of descending return on investment on one’s inner work. I, as an Eight,
gain the most value from the Enneagram by looking at ways in which I
maladaptively overdo striving to be powerful, the strategy found at point
Eight. Next, I gain by looking at ways that I under-do or even resist the
strategy found at point Two, striving to be connected. (Bob and I used the term
“neglected” strategy for what is commonly called the “security point” or
direction of integration in our book because it is helpful in our growth to pay
attention to how we “neglect” the use of this strategy.) Third, I gain from
observing how I maladaptively rely on the strategy of striving to be detached found
at point Five to “support” my striving to be powerful. (We referred to this as the “support
strategy.”)
There is still value in looking at the other six points and your
relationship to those strategies, but you get the greatest benefit from
observing your preferred strategy and the two you are connected to by the inner
lines.